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This is unplugged and turned on, where we drop the masks, challenge the rules, and explore what connection, desire, and relationships really look like beneath the surface. This is an adult podcast and is not intended for anyone under the age of 18. So if you're under 18, go find something else to listen to. I'm Neil.

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And I'm Trinity. And together we're getting into the real stuff: attraction, intimacy, communication, and the moments that actually create chemistry.

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No scripts, no pretending. Just honest conversations about what turns us on. Mentally, emotionally, and physically. So go ahead.

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Unplug a little. And let's turn something on. Okay, welcome back. I'm Neo. Hey, I'm Trinity. And this is our fourth episode. We've made it to episode four. What do you think about that?

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We made it.

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Yeah. Okay, so first of all, what are we drinking today? Oh my gosh.

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I forget where we first had this, but it was a place here in town. Oh, was it? Okay. It's a blueberry lemon mascale mule. I know not everyone's a fan of mascal, which actually I didn't know until recently. Um, and I'm hit and miss with it. It depends. But when you put blueberry and lemon in anything, I'm kind of like, what? What are we talking about?

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Absolutely. I think yeah. Good stuff.

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This is good. This is a good one.

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It is. I will, if I remember, drop the link to a recipe we found in the show notes because we had tried it out at the restaurant, and I'm like, oh, we've got to find this.

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Yeah, this is good.

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And this is good.

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Because mascot can be sometimes a little overpowering because it's smoky. Um, and sometimes I'll just choose just because I'm a tequila girl. Tequila. Or vodka because vodka is just so quiet and demure.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Yeah, but you're not necessarily a tequila girl. You are a margarita girl. I'm a margarita girl. No tequila shots really in this house.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

No, no, not like that.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

No, it's a little that's a little too rude for me. I'm gonna drop a quick tip though.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Oh, please oh yes, share this, please.

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So people that do tequila shots, like here in the States, we do tequila, um, salt, lime. Now, there's another way to do this. So much better. That is so much better, I think, that you may want to try. Um, we pick this up in Germany, actually, and you take a shot of tequila, and you follow that up immediately with it's a it's like a slice of orange with cinnamon sprinkled on it. So you do the shot of tequila, you bite the orange with the cinnamon sprinkled on it, and it is so. It's magical.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

You just kind of go like, wait, this has been around, and why have I been doing lime and salt?

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Right. Now, lime and salt has its place and it's good. And it's good like in the margarita, but like a tequila shot. I and I'm we love lime, we love salt, we love tahine, like we love all those flavors. But a shot of tequila followed up by orange and cinnamon, yeah. Try it out of this world. Try it. All right, so episode four. I think right now we really want to talk about uh getting educated, getting educated, and kind of what kind of goes with that around boundaries.

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You'll hear that a lot. Uh boundaries and rules, and we're gonna share just sort of like our experiences with that and kind of insights and whatnot. Yeah.

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But first before we get there, we'll talk about our first trip to Scarlet Ranch.

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Oh, and that's in Denver, which is the mile high city.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

Right. So if you've listened to podcasts or you've looked for clubs, you've probably heard of Scarlet Ranch. If not, it is a club just outside, I don't know, in Denver, outside of Denver.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Outside of Denver, yeah.

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Kind of like in an old I would think like an old hunting lodge kind of thing. Yeah. But it was really cool. We um had originally tried to go there earlier in the year, and this was last year. Tried to go there earlier in the year um with uh WGT. We talked about we got a thing, we were part of that community. Um, and they were having uh kind of like a hotel takeover-ish kind of weekend um in July, I think, last year.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

Is that what it was? I thought it was just just a meet and greet.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

It was kind of oh, you're right. It was a meet and greet, but I think they'd gotten a hotel. It was gonna go to Scarlet Right. All of that stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:51

We couldn't go.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

We couldn't go. We were already signed up for like this couple's retreat in North Carolina. Um, and I tried to get out of that because I wanted to go to Scarlet Ranch, but the couples retreat we ended up going to what was the town? Asheville, Asheville, North Carolina, which is so cute.

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It was green, and there was actually people under the age of 70 there, and it was like, whoa, but why are there so many young people?

SPEAKER_00 5:19

There are people out walking. There's people actually, and it's not a hundred degrees though, so that's a little different, too.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

It was it I mean, it was different, and it was like, oh, where where we're from? It was like, oh yeah, okay, I understand the population. May I don't know. Yeah, it was May.

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May okay, yeah, right. So, anyways, we ended up um in WGT finding out that they were doing somebody's birthday celebration at Scarlet Ranch, and there were some people getting together, and it was really around the time of my birthday, too. So I was like, you know what? Here's our chance. Let's go. Let's do it. Right. We can go with this group, we can go check out this cool club.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

It's a good excuse. Like, we want to go here. How do we get there? This is a good excuse. A birthday, sure. Yeah, it's always birthdays.

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Yeah. And you know, I had been to Denver before, and I think it's a beautiful city. Um, so I wanted Trinity to go check it out as well. So it's kind of like killing all these birds with one stone.

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You're so mean. You're killing birds.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

Okay. Well, they taste good.

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And uh hitting all these, hitting all these checkpoints, yeah.

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Um so we flew up there. The event was actually gonna happen on Sunday, the birthday kind of thing at Scarlet Ranch.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Um at Scarlet Ranch on Sundays, they have what they call Sunday fun day. I don't know if they had to do it every Sunday. I feel like it's irregular, where it's just during the day where it's not the club scene. It is very relaxing. It's you're out in the open the day outside. Um, it's very different.

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Yeah. Yeah. And you know, we had thought honestly, like, that sounds nice. Like we don't necessarily want to start our activities at 11 at night through two to three in the morning. So Sunday, fun day, nice and relaxed. I think a little bit low pressure too. Um, so we said, yeah, we're gonna go do this. Um, and we'd been chatting with the group um that were gonna go there uh through the WGT community app.

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I think there was like three couple, other couples, I think it was like three other couples or so, um, and kind of chatting with them a little bit uh beforehand. And one of the couples, uh uh the gentleman's like, hey, let's there's also the night before, there is um a show. If you're interested, let's do it. And it was a burlesque show. And we're like, sure, we're gonna come in the night before the Friday before and to do the show and then do the Sunday fun day. Like, absolutely, we'll make a long weekend of it.

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Yeah. So we flew in Friday night, um, Friday afternoon. Uh Trinity and I did. Uh got a uh pretty nice hotel. It's so cute. It was so cute. Really like a boutique ish, fancy hotel.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Yeah, I'm getting to be like a snob with that and be like, oh, a boutique hotel.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

Yeah, but it's like when you get to BRA, just like I don't want the roach coach. I want a nice place. I want to be pampered a little bit. Even I do. I'm like, yeah, okay, I can go camp, or I can stay in a very in a nice hotel.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

And I gotta say, the lobby at this hotel. Well, shoot, I don't remember the hotel.

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I know.

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Fantastic.

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Yeah. Lobby was amazing. So we got there Friday, went out to eat, found a cool little because we like it. We just we talked about it already. Germany had uh a German restaurant downtown. We decided to try that out. That was good. Certainly not the sexiest food in the world, German food, but it is good food.

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But for us as a couple, like that's what it was our thing, and we're like, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

Got to have some Hefeweizen, you, I forget, ciders, usually cider, salsa or something. Yeah. Not cocktails. You don't have cocktails in the restaurant. Something. So we went out, um, then we made back to the hotel. I I'm pretty sure we had a good time at the hotel in the May. We always have a good time. You gotta test the hotel bets always, people. I mean, whatever. Um, the next day, I think everybody started showing up in the afternoon, evening. Um, first couple showed up. I think we were having drinks with them in the lobby when the other couple showed up.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

And then they all knew each other. We're the newcomers to the group, so yeah. Yeah, we're the downers.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

Coming from where we are to Denver, and everyone else kind of lived somewhat near the Yeah, close enough. Um then we went out to eat, uh, grab some sushi at a pretty cool place in in downtown Denver. Uh that was good. Uh, you know, it was six of us, and you know, it's hard to find a place that has like a round table for six people or more people where you can all actually talk to each other, but I think we made the best of it. Uh table upstairs, all shared our sushi, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:11

Trying to like, you know, break the bond. Yeah, just kind of and also on I want to say too, we walked there. Yeah. And just trying to chat, like really like speed dating almost, like chatting as much as we can, getting to know this other couple, like hey, where are you where are you from? Blah blah blah blah blah. Just to get there and then share a meal together. Because they're just kind of getting squished. Because the other the first couple, the one that put this whole thing kind of together, the the the event sat sun Saturday night events together, like we had spent a a few hours with them, so we were a little more comfortable with them. Right.

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And this they and we chatted with them, I think, more anyways, in the app beforehand. That's right. Yeah. And I'll tell you, I'll say, like, you know, we were we're still we we were still new, we are still newish, right? We've been doing this for uh a little bit more than a year now. So at that point, we'd been doing lifestyle stuff for probably it was yeah, six months, maybe and not lifestyle stuff as like attending events. That's right. So we're pretty new, had met them, um, communicated with them through the apps. So for us, like communicating with people through apps is like just normal chatting, right? Yeah, yeah. So, but we'd gotten comfortable with them sitting down in the lobby before the other folks showed up. So we had a little bit of an advantage with them and the other couple that showed up like a little bit less, but we were making the best of it. We're talking with them, like you said, um, back or to the restaurant and back.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Yeah. I think we're all kind of feeling super like happy, psyched. Um it seemed like really good vibes in the in there.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Yeah, and the newer, the other the newer couple that we talk about that we were, you know, catching up with uh later on, like you'll hear about them later on in our story. Um we made like I think good friends. We we've kept in touch. Yeah.

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Um so Saturday night after dinner.

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Yeah, so we went to dinner, went back to the hotel, arranged an Uber to go get all of us over to the burlesque show. So we get to the burlesque show. I I don't I know. Okay, so this burlesque show. Oh, I didn't talk about this, right? Is I we had never been to one. I had never been to one, Trendy's never been to one, and when we were chatting, I'm like sure what one is I know right. I think maybe the first time I ever saw, like, what's burlesque? If I think about it now, it was like in the movie European vacation, where she's like, right? I mean, she's like doing a little dance for husband, blah blah blah. Anyways, so he's like, Yeah, let's go see a show. And the show was Nightmare on Strip Street. People, let me tell you, like, I look that up and I'm like, I do not see how all of the scariest movies from my childhood can be a sexy thing.

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So I'm like, I would not choose this, but yeah, it's like Moulin Rouge, Smash, and Hellraiser or something like that. Right. Like, how do you how do you make how do you make some creative minds?

SPEAKER_00 13:25

Some creative, yeah. Um, but it worked. Uh, but anyways, like I'm like, I don't know if I want to go to this, but we're like, hey, we're going to Denver and it's a thing we can do at night.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

You were questioning that. I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

I'm like this. Of course. But that's me. That's you. You're like, all right, sounds good. Right. You're like, Trinity doesn't have like, hey, let's go do this or this or this or this. But she's but if you tell her, hey, let's go do a thing, she's like, okay, uh, let's go.

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Yeah, I'm like, what do I wear? Yeah. What time do I need to be there?

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So, anyways, we we went there, we'd gotten, you know, whatever you call VIP seating in a place like that. Because it's kind of like a small warehouse kind of environment with like bleacher seating and then some nicer tables, I think, up front closer to the stage.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

Yeah, I loved our seats. It was it was cool, right?

SPEAKER_00 14:16

Like it was the best. Yeah. And, you know, it they had a kind of like this comedian-ish kind of lady, MC. She was made, you know, she making people laugh, opening up the crowd, and then the show started. And um, I'll tell you, like a scary movie people can be very fucking sexy in the right environment. Um I still think I struggled with uh uh Stephen King's it. There there was a clown couple, and they were huge heads, like bobble life-size bobble bobblehead doll kind of things, just huge heads, small bodies. Um she still did a great job, like making if you if you ignored the head and looked down, she still did a great job of being sexy, uh making things sexy, and then you looked up at the scary clown face and you're like, oh god, like that's like my brain is fucked up right now.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

It's like pain and pleasure, like all of the same time.

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Yeah, so that's my I think that was my biggest takeaway from that one was or just memory from that one was that, but the other one was oh the the ring, how she crawled out of that TV thing.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

I'm thinking, wait, what? Like my mind is trying to catch up to like what's happening, and she's like her head and her spine and her legs are matching up. I'm like, I I can't catch up.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

They rolled this like fake TV out onto the stage, and the screen, I don't know, was probably a a normal tube TV screen at the time, like a I'll say a 19-inch TV or whatever. It was probably a little bit more than a little bit. Yeah, the TVs we grew up with, the TVs we grew up with. And the screen was probably made of like a spandexy type material, but this chick just crawls right through the screen.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Like it looks like the movie. Yeah. And I'm still, as he were talking about it, I'm like, wait, how did she do that?

SPEAKER_00 16:19

Right.

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Get it.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

Because that was still one of the scariest movies I've seen is the ring. Like that was one of the things.

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And then she came down the stairs with her legs in the wrong way, going, yeah.

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Like this the person that they had doing this dance was had to have been like triple quadruple jointed. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

And the other one was the Megan, and I'm not up to date with the actual movie, but that scary movie Megan, yeah, like her on the pole, like amazing. Oh, these people were just so like skilled in their craft, it was just mind-boggling from like scary, sexy, like an amazing skill, and the amount of athleticism.

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Because I think the Megan girl, she was not petite, like she was a normal size, normal body, which I love what we start seeing these days on Victoria's Secret stuff. Yes, normal body, but this girl, like on the pole. Sorry, yeah, excuse me. If I say girl, that's just me. Uh yeah, guys and sorry, yeah. So, but this woman on the pole was just amazing. I mean, dance, like hanging on with legs just by her legs, and it's suspended in the air at 90 degrees. You're like, holy crazy.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

And I'm just looking at her like, I can't even wear those stiletto boots. I can't even get to step like one. That's cool. Look for you. But anyway, that was a really fun experience with with the group that we came with. That experience itself was really nice.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

It was. I just I love so I'm just trying to remember all of the if if you haven't ever been to a burlesque show, I highly recommend it. If you have time to look up like Nightmare on Ship Sheet, do it. But yeah, I think we saw like a Freddie Krueger thing. That the closing act was Hellraisers, so all the pinheads. You said Megan. There was Stephen King's It.

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There was uh Chucky and Chucky's Bride.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Oh, I feel like every thing there was every covered all of them. Yeah, it was really. Freddie Krueger in the champagne glass. I would recommend that. That was amazing. That was cool. Yeah. Um, which is Freddie Krueger was my movie when I was a kid. She didn't want to go to sleep. No. You literally didn't want to go to sleep. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

I have uh PTSD from that. But even though, like, I would say like the two movies from there. Like, I watched Tellraiser as a kid. That wasn't that was just a weird movie to me.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

Like, I I don't think I saw that one.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

I did. Uh it wasn't that scary to me. It was just weird. But all the Freddie Kruegers, and then I think we were married at the time when The Ring came out, and that was like one of our last scary movies we watched. I was freaked out.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

I think we're done with these. I think we can't handle those anymore. Yeah, we we got too old.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

So after the show, we caught an Uber back to the hotel. Um, it was one of the couples uh her birthday. Um, so there was a suggestion that, hey, let's go back to a room. We brought a massage table, we can do a 10-handed massage. And I think that night the comfort level wasn't there, especially with I think with us like being new to that group. Um, so they passed on that, went back to their room for the night.

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And I think we were all like, okay, yeah, we'll see you guys tomorrow. Right. But we got back to our pasties.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

We went and saw the pasties that she had. Oh, yeah. She's like, hey, check these out.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

The other um that's right, uh female in the group.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

We're gonna have to figure out how to just name people here without naming them, like nicknames, but yeah, we'll get there.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

Um, but then we got to our room, we're like, eh, we kind of set some stuff down, like, you know, let's go back down, we'll have a drink, because we're we're really not done. Right. Um, and then we all we met another a couple that had set the burlesque evening that event up, also, I think in the elevator, and they're like, Yeah, we'll meet you back down there. So we had a nice evening just chatting with them in this really cool lobby, beautiful bar area.

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It was like an old bank. Remember that? Yeah, it was bank vaults in there.

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Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

Yeah, in the basement, they had the bank vault. Yeah, yeah, that's it was so cool, dude. It was so cool. Really cool. Um, so that was Saturday night, Friday night, and I gotta say Sunday. Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

I had the worst hangover. Oh my gosh, yeah, you did. I really I don't drink too extreme, and I didn't think I did, but obviously I did, because I didn't have no blonger girl. Yeah, I did not, which is a great reminder. I just did not feel good, and I was just really grumpy, and you went and got me coffee, and which was great because it was that was a journey, slow moving morning, which was like, oh, I hated that because I don't like to waste time. I don't like to waste time. I'm like, where's to like do a thing? And I'm like, oh I'm grumpy and I'm in bed, and this sucks. Yeah. But eventually to get thing get the engines going, was able to do that a little later in the morning, later than I wanted to.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Yep. But we made it through. I just remember going to get coffee, and it was it was quite the adventure. Yeah, you kind of had a bounce. One place closed, trying to find another place, never found it, ended up at another place that we'd gone to the day before. And it was I'm sure like you Sunday mornings in downtown Denver. Right, and I'm sure you thought I was lost at that point because it did take me a while to man.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

Honestly, I was just so miserable. I was just like, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 22:07

Like and we had yeah. So yeah, so that was the morning. Um we had already gone to like a local grocery store to get some drinks that we could take with us because including water that I didn't drink the match.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

Bring your own whatever you want to drink.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Yeah. So we grabbed that, caught an Uber out to Scarlet Ranch. Um, and it was you said I think you said it already, Sunday, Funday. So it was like a I I forget which time we showed up there, like 11 a.m. kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Uh yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

So we got out there around 11-ish, and then we'd never been there before, so we had to, you know, that does like membership check-in stuff, and it was also a holiday weekend.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

Right. Yeah. So it was labor day, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

Yeah. So it took us probably, I don't know, 30 to 45 minutes to get through the signing up process, getting back in line, getting back in.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Which is okay because I'm still trying to like she's a real trooper. Like, she trying to be trying to get rally up, trying to pretend that she's okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

And I so I think she's okay, but apparently she wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

But the car ride just sucked.

SPEAKER_00 23:28

Well, the car ride sucked. It was a long ride from downtown Denver. I think the guy had never turned AC on.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

It was no, I was I was getting really uncomfortable. I'm like, oh my gosh, I probably smell like alcohol because pour it coming out of every pore. I don't feel good. I want to roll these windows down. I was just really stuffy. And plus, you know, I'm on temperature sensitive anyway. Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

I'm like, bro, you're on some air. You know what? I didn't ask.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

So that's on me. That's another thing. Yeah, that yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Anyway, so we get through the sign in and pay and they get through sign and play and then we go out.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

And one of the other couples we hadn't met yet, they had um reserved a cabana for the group.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

And they have these a few outdoor cabanas. There are chairs or other seating areas. The cabanas are kind of kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Yeah, it was nice. It was, you know, they have a bed out there, they have, you know, tables and kind of chairs around there, but it's a place really where you can all kind of gather and call like home base for the day.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

And there's a grassy area if you just want to throw out a blanket and lay on the grass.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

So we dropped off our drinks, went outside. I think that's when we changed. I got into my sarong, which you know, I absolutely freaking love. Like, oh, it's cool. It's so easy. It's a cool thing. I love my sarong.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

I love that you have that. Yeah. And I kind of wish that you had a shorter one. I feel like you have a winter one. It goes to your ankles. You need one that's like more knee length or something.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

That's funny. Well, you can always sew that up or just make another one.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

I can just get you a napkin and you can wrap it around your waist.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

Yeah. So I got yeah, I think I got naked and threw my sarong on.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

And that was the first time I'd ever like Yeah, and I was still like, oh, I still had I had some shorts and a I don't know, tank top or something. I twist lower to just kind of really observant what's everyone else doing. And maybe I had a bikini top on.

SPEAKER_02 25:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Um, and some short, yeah. Um, just really watching what's everyone else doing. This is like really like what's normalizing, what's happening. We're still very new. What's everyone else doing? Always in my head. What's always in my head? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

Yep. Um, so I had my song on. Trinity had her top on. Eventually, she got her top off, and I thought that was I was so proud of her for that. Like, plus, I love seeing her hits out in the sun.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

And I think, and I also took my shorts off and I had a uh thong bottom on. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

That was actually a sexy red thong.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

I think it was a um outfit or costume from Sapphire. Was it? Yeah, I got I was able to reuse something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

So yeah, but we hung out there that day. Um, it was nice. Uh let the girls out. Oh, let the girls out. That's right. And they loved the sun. There was, I was, I just want to say, like, I've heard other people talk about this guy too, but like they had gone in. There's this guy. Like, you'd think he was a pirate, but I will call him heavy metal. And why would I call him heavy metal? Yeah, that's really fitting. Because like he had metal all over his dick. Like this guy probably had 10 pounds of rings hanging from his dick.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Yeah, so someone mentioned to me, like, hey, did you see the person? Did you see the person in the pool playing pool? And I'm like, Yeah, I saw some I saw some people finding.

SPEAKER_00 27:03

I saw some people playing pool.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

But I didn't realize until later what that was referred to until I was like, holy sh shit. Yeah, I'm like, but also mad respect, like, great for you. But immediately I'm thinking, how in the holy hell do you get to TSA?

SPEAKER_00 27:25

Ah, that's funny.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Yeah, like ha and I have piercings, and so I'm like, I can't imagine the actual care you have to take for that.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

Also, like the burlesque performers, I got respect for that because there's a lot people don't understand about care and TSA or whatever. You're at the dentist getting x-rays, and you're like, I have to take all this out.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Like what? Um a lot of piercings. Um, but also I feel like that's um it's gotta be a conversation starter. Like, I don't know how you start that conversation.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

But I don't know how you don't, because it's like it's not like you don't notice.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

I I like your I don't know how do you start that one?

SPEAKER_00 28:17

I like your jewelry. I noticed your jewelry.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

I noticed the bling. But heavy metal, I really like that. I think that's fitting because also like kind of how he was kind of presenting himself. I'm like, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

The other part that I still wonder about is how does that actually feel in the act of sex to both him and his partner.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Yeah, it's I mean, there's the aesthetic piece, but also what is the actual function, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:47

And then does anything ever come loose, fall off? Like, oh my god. Again, it's there was so much metal. I'm telling you, like, this is no joke. It was probably like 20 rings in this guy's cock, like 20. It was all over the place.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

I I think that's underestimating that number. Anyways, yeah. So that was also heard him referred to it from by other people and also on other podcasts. I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:11

Yep, we saw him.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

He's he's well known. Good for you, man. Good for you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

So we hung out uh there. I they have a huge water slide, um, I guess that they pull out generally. It's like a bouncy house water slide.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

They do do not have a pool, there's no jacuzzi. Right, it's just this like old hunting lodge.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

They have one main floor at the top that has it looks like they have a band there, but not that day. Uh it looks like a restaurant, a bar. Oh, yeah, they serve food there. That's right. Um, yeah, so we I did the slide a couple times, first uh both times with uh one of the couples we'd met up with. And then you did naked. And then I did it naked. The funny thing is, is like you're crawling up the ladder thing, right? Yeah, with your balls bouncing around. And then if you look up like it ahead of you far enough, like you can see the other guy's balls bouncing. Because it was like him, me and the other guy, we were doing this naked.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

You know, that's just how you were how you were made, man. That's how you're made.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

So I was trying to keep my eyes as close to my hands as possible, just so I could make sure I keep the rungs and not see anything that I don't want to see.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Yeah, I can see that would be like I've not seen that before.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

Right, but I think eventually it it all doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

I gotta say, like this was also, I don't know, I think we mentioned like Labor Day weekend. So it was pretty crowded. Um, food service was pretty slow. I don't even know. Did we get what we ordered? We did not pay for what we ordered.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

I paid for somebody else's, remember? Because they left and they didn't have our bill.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

It was a little chaos chaos there. Um, and then we were down in the playrooms at one point, and it was like, whoa, it's like a traffic jam. It was hot, people were taking showers.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

So we went down there though. Let's talk about that. Like we went down there with a group, um, and we played sexy Jenga. They had this Jenga game in big giant Jenga. Big, like the two by four style Jenga. So we played that with the group that we were there with, and that was kind of fun. I mean, it was lighthearted, it was our first time, I think, playing a game like that.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

Yeah, it was it was fun.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

It was fun because and you could do things because the block told you to do it. Yeah, but it was funny because like it will I swear they only had like four things printed on these blocks, so everybody just kept six inches on somebody's back, got that like 12 times on the block. Like grab someone's chest or whatever, kiss.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

It could have been a little more variety, and right, but but it was fun, and it's like we all agreed ahead of time. Like, if you want to do it, raise your hand, say yes, I want to be a participant, or you can pass it off, like you don't have to do the thing.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

Right. So it wasn't a one-to-one thing, like you it wasn't one person picking one person, it was the Who wants to be licked?

SPEAKER_01 32:09

And it was like eight people raising their hands, right?

SPEAKER_00 32:11

And then you lick eight people, and so there you go. Yeah, so that was fun. Then we went over to the playroom, it was really crowded, like Trinity was saying. Oh gosh, yeah, everyone's kind of waiting around, and it also had a but it was uh uh just to give the layout, they probably had, I think it was like I don't know, four, eight, six or eight six private small little curtain rooms and a group room, and then they had a big group room, and then you know, I think you could play outside in the cabanas too. But the downstairs area for us was like six or eight little rooms that you could or you know, you could choose to close the curtain or not. And there was like little queen beds, and I think because it was a Sunday, they're probably a little bit lower staffed, but I think they forgot to account for the fact that it was a holiday. Yeah, so there was one guy in there and he tried to turn these trying to turn beds aroundtresses over, yeah. You know, thank god they had staff doing it. That's cool. Um, but it was slow. So most of our group decided to leave because we were waiting there for uh quite a while. Nothing they went to the cabana.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

I don't know. We just were like, we're gonna wait.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

Like, we're here, we're gonna try this out.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

We're gonna ask this guy to clean this room right here.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Yeah, so I chased him down. I think we chased him down and we're like, hey, can you change the sheets? And he did. So we went in there and played together together by ourselves. Um, and that was we enjoyed that.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

You could hear some like sexy sounds, sexy sounds, but you could also hear people like talking about their kids' soccer and like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 33:48

Like like being loud and talking about just normal life hey, I've got to change my tire, and it's like what you're like, hey, I'm trying to trying to concentrate here. Like, what's going on? Yeah, so so we did a thing to do a thing. I think that's what that was.

SPEAKER_01 34:05

We did a thing to do a thing, but it was good.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

Like, I I I still enjoyed it. I wouldn't I wouldn't change it. We don't think we were laughing and we were like, like, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

We're doing this. Yeah, we're doing this, we're exposing ourselves to this new thing. We already know each other, we feel comfortable with each other.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

Yep. So we did that, and then we went out um back and met everybody up, and I met everybody at the cabana. I don't know if they'd done any play at the cabana.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

Yeah, they're like, oh, we just we just played. We just played. We just played here. We're like, well no.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Nice to see or hang out with. But I think where we were at, like, I really enjoyed us doing the experience that we had. I I will say, like, for our listeners, I am a big person with FOMO. Like, I'm always like, hey, what's going on somewhere else? And what's going on somewhere else? And I do struggle sometimes with like being present in the moment. So, you know, you'll hear about, I'm sure you'll hear more about that in our um in our journey, but you know, that's one of the things that I'm still trying to work through is hey, just be here, be present, be in your body, all of that cool stuff. But you know, so I'm like, I enjoyed our time, and I'm like, oh, did I miss out on something else? But I didn't. I enjoy always.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

That's he was like, oh, that's something maybe for next time.

SPEAKER_00 35:24

Yeah. Right. I like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

All right. So education.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Well, hold on. We wrapped up that I'm just gonna wrap it up. We wrapped that event up. We went out, we had a good Italian dinner, like we went out to dinner with all these folks just to continue, I think, the conversation, and then from there we kind of split back up and everyone went their own ways. Because some of the couples, one of the couples lived two of the couples lived in town, one of the couples they had gotten they switched rooms, uh, switched hotels to the one that was closer to Scarlet Ranch, and then for us we caught we actually rode with one of the couples, they took us back to a hotel because they lived in town, and and then that was it. And then the next day we got up and flew back home.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

All right, so just kind of getting started with a lifestyle or like you're kind of interested or you're fully invested, whatever you are on that spectrum. Yeah, we you start with education. Right. Uh and how you do it is how you do it. Um, but I'll share, yeah, I'll just kind of share what how what we did and kind of what's out there. Yeah. Um you absolutely can just jump in. Sure. If that's what you want to do and that works for you.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

Yeah, I think it's knowing where you're at in your relationship and what you guys are comfortable with talking about already.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

Yeah. For for us, we're risk adverse. We've been married so long, but also different personalities. Um that's big.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

Like I think before you go on, like that's huge, is different personalities. This is two people doing a thing. Yeah. And I think, you know, at least for us, like the biggest thing is you both have to know what you're looking for, but one person cannot sh I will say I will say should not, but you guys know your relationship. One person shouldn't be going faster than the other.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Yeah, that's that's hard, especially in the beginning. That's hard, I think.

SPEAKER_00 37:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Um, especially to know what you want. Like, I don't know. I don't know if I agree with that. Cause I think like you're like, what the heck is I love that this stuff? Yeah. What is this? Especially how we came to know about it. It was through po uh podcasts, and it was like, what is this? So I just want to speak to like how what we did. Yeah. Um, like it was through podcasts. So the getting educated part is I need to know more.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:59

I need more information.

SPEAKER_00 38:00

Oh, that's definitely you.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

Yeah. Like I need to know more. Immediately I'm gonna say no, no. And then think about it personally. Um, but to consume information, to learn more about it, um, especially things that may not agree on, or it's like, let me hear the other side. What is it? What is it? To be open to that is hard, but I think it takes patience to just, and then there's we conversation around it. This is what I heard, and this is why it's such bullshit. Um, this is why I think it's so stupid. What the fuck? Or whatever, you know, and then having conversations about it, and then listening to the next episode of something or a different podcast, and then still talking about it. Um, so I think for us it was a lot of podcast getting information, learning, information gathering.

SPEAKER_00 39:00

And talking too during that process, right?

SPEAKER_01 39:03

Uh yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

And it's, I would say, like, at least for me, like it's still not the easiest thing to talk about because you don't grow up not thinking like this is okay to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

Like you don't even grow up thinking you can talk about sex with your spouse.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Right. Now you're talking about, especially like being married as long as we have. Like, now we're talking about having sex with other people. Like, what is that look? What is that?

SPEAKER_01 39:29

What the heck?

SPEAKER_00 39:30

Right.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Or depending on what podcast you're listening to or what the content is, like or the dynam dynamic someone has of like, oh, they do this. What does that seem like?

SPEAKER_00 39:42

What do we want to do that?

SPEAKER_01 39:43

Yeah, like not want to do that. Is that a thing? Just exposing ourselves to something that's not just your traditional monogamy that's run in the mill, everyone knows.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

Right.

SPEAKER_01 39:58

So like there's podcasts. Um, and then for us also, um, because we are avid readers, reading re voraciously reading everything we can get a hold of.

SPEAKER_00 40:13

And I'll say, like, you know, for us, we're also doing a little bit of um sex intimacy coaching type stuff, and that brought a whole different aspect into this. A whole bunch of different type of books and understanding just different relationship styles, and then understanding how that might relate to our lifestyle journey. And what we I don't know, it's I look at it more like there's a whole bunch of options out there.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

Yeah, relationship design. I love that. And then figuring out like what is it that interests us and what doesn't interest us.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

I love the options. It's like a menu.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

It is.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

But you thought the menu was just like this one thing you get PB peanut butter jelly sandwiches every day. This is what you get.

SPEAKER_00 41:03

I love peanut butter and jelly.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

Right, yeah, me too. Right. But you think that's it, and you realize actually there's a secret menu.

SPEAKER_00 41:12

Like Harvey.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

There's an in-and-out menu.

SPEAKER_00 41:14

Yeah, there's a secret menu. You just have to know it's there.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Yeah, right. So education, education, getting more information, learning, especially if like you're going to, I don't know, present this to your partner. Information, slow it down, chat about it, talk about it, listen to things together, read chapters separately, come together and talk about them like book club. Um now, I realize not everything is going to fit what you're looking for. Like, ah, that don't know. This doesn't seem right, but it's still good information.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

Right.

SPEAKER_01 41:56

You're getting exposure again. Like once I said I said that earlier, you're exposing yourself to something, you're opening up, you're being stretched a little bit, your thinking is changing. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

Okay, you said being stretched. I just got a little tingled there. I'm just saying, like well, yeah, being stretched.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

Oh, what are you thinking about?

SPEAKER_00 42:20

Yeah, but opening to new ideas and things.

SPEAKER_01 42:23

I think you know that really can because we have these beliefs of how we're supposed to be. Right. So it's okay if like you and your your spouse, your partner are like not on the same page, like no shit. How could you possibly? And it takes a little bit to everybody to kind of like, oh, okay, let's do understanding. Let me learn.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

And I don't know that you ever stop that part either. I don't know. There's always growing. I look at it more like, at least for me, like how I how I learn and do things. I'm the guy that's on the YouTube uh that gives the instructions, and it's like there's 20 steps. I don't need this step. I don't watch. Well, no, it's not that. I don't watch all 20 steps ahead of time. I see step one, I go do step one. I come back, I watch step two, I go do step two.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

Oh, I thought you looked at step one and then you looked at step ten.

SPEAKER_00 43:21

No, I'm like, I don't need those two to it. I watch each step, and each step that I see, I go and do a thing. And some people are like, I need to watch all 20 steps. Or I can't start something. I'm like, no, I'm I'm like a I see a step one, I need to go do a step one. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:35

Oh, I think I'm the I need to see.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

You are you are the I want to watch the whole all the steps.

SPEAKER_01 43:41

I want to see where this where this path leads. Do I want that?

SPEAKER_00 43:46

Right. I think that's you know, me, ADHD. Like, I you cannot keep my attention for the 20 steps, so I'm gonna watch step one and go do step.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

Oh, I'm like over here on the side, like taking notes. Like, hmm, what are the best ways? Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 43:59

And I'm like What the no.

SPEAKER_01 44:01

Yeah. What how do I want to approach this?

SPEAKER_00 44:03

Right. And I think as I apply that to the lifestyle, it's like, you know, we've talked about this too. It's like we educate ourselves, we learn a whole bunch, and then it's like, are you gonna do a thing or not do a thing? Because a lot of the education comes in doing a thing, but you've got to figure out what you're comfortable with initially, and you know, what you're willing to be uncomfortable in in a situation, just figure out is that something I'm even interested in or not.

SPEAKER_01 44:30

I love that you're bringing this up because for me, I can read about it and listen to it all day long and then turn it off and just be like, that's nice. That was really educational. I learned something.

SPEAKER_00 44:46

That was cool that they did this.

SPEAKER_01 44:47

But I love how you bring it back like, and ellipsis, like dot dot dot. Like, what do we what do you want to do about it?

SPEAKER_00 44:54

That's so our generation, apparently. That's so our generation. And apparently, younger generations think that's like passive aggressive.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

And I'm like, no, it's no, it's like great.

SPEAKER_00 45:04

Yeah. Like, oh, innuendo.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

Like, uh, oh, you want me to do something with it? Oh, you want me to do something with it.

SPEAKER_00 45:14

Oh, I thought I was just reading about it. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:17

And I know for me that's a very active process to like one, I can read about it and learn about it all day long and have conversations, and it's like, but I love that you bring that back of like, okay, what do you want to do about it?

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Right.

SPEAKER_01 45:30

Because I'm like, nothing.

SPEAKER_00 45:32

Uh-huh. Right. Which is a scary place to scary.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

Because it's but yeah, but yeah, but I think that brings us maybe next to to our next kind of topic of kind of boundaries of like, how do you keep yourself safe? Like, what are your limits? Where are you willing to start? What's gonna keep you kind of in like I'm just gonna dip my toe in.

SPEAKER_00 45:55

Yeah. So I think you know, I would just say, like, Trinity highlighted, we did a lot of education through podcasts. We've read a lot of books, absolutely, but I think podcasts were the biggest thing about the lifestyle stuff. And you will hear this if you are that person, you will hear obviously like rules, boundaries, all of this stuff. What I would highlight before anything else is like there seems there can at times seem to be a script for this. You do this, then you do this, then you do this, then you migrate to this, then you do this. But I think everybody has their own journey in this, and you've got to figure out like what your next next step is, what you're comfortable with, what you know, and figure out what you like and don't like. There is no roadmap to this because your relationship is unique.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

And I know we all want the 10 steps to be successful and to be a successful swinger, right? And or whatever, whatever we're doing.

SPEAKER_00 46:58

We we want that, like yeah, because you want to know that if I do this, this, this, this, this, this, and this, I'm gonna achieve this. And it's like, that's not how this works.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

And you'll and you'll hear people talk hear people talk about like how they did it or kind of what they recommend and things to avoid. Like, sure, absolutely. Yep, but at the end of the day, you're gonna have to figure it out for yourself.

SPEAKER_00 47:20

And there, yeah. And I think that was the conversation we're just having is you actually, if again, this is something that you wanted to do, you actually have to do a thing before you figure out if you like it. And that was the conversation we're just having. It was like, hey, I listened to the podcast. That was great. Hey, I read this book, that was great. Okay, now what are we gonna do about it?

SPEAKER_01 47:39

Yeah, my uh good friend of ours, they say, good friends of ours say, like, you can talk about something to death. You can talk about it and talk about it, but you're not gonna know until you do the thing. Right. It's like absolutely, yeah, like, and we talk about like we're gonna grab lock hands and we're just do a thing. We're gonna jump together, we're gonna do it. We're just gonna do it, and then we're gonna talk about it later. And I love see how was that?

SPEAKER_00 48:02

Yeah, and I love how you said that, right? Because that's like that's why we do this. We do this together. Like for us, we've set our boundaries, but really like who we are. Like, I we have an amazing relationship. Like, we're not going anywhere. But all of this for us, and I'll speak for me, all of this for me is about I think exploring our sexuality, our pleasure together. Like our adventurous, it is absolutely it's like, but I don't the whole thing about grabbing each other's hands, holding our each other's hands, and then jumping, like that's that illustrates our relationship and our desire in this. Uh very good.

SPEAKER_01 48:46

Yeah. It's like you look at each other like, are you good? Yeah. Are you good? Yeah. Yep. Okay, let's do this really scary thing. Nope. I'm gonna s I'm gonna make eye contact with this person. Yeah, oh my god, I was it. Right. Like it but but also like taking it at your your own pace, like that too.

SPEAKER_00 49:04

But anyways, right, absolutely. But you know, I think education is only as good as its application.

SPEAKER_01 49:13

Right. Like, and I heard this um said, like, you can have your foot on the brake. Yep, that's safe. And you can have your foot on the gas. Yeah, that makes you go. But if you have a foot on the brake and the gas, that's really confusing. Like you gotta take your foot off the brake at some point.

SPEAKER_00 49:30

Right. Right. If that's what you want to do, obviously. Like, if you want to pursue this, if you're interested in it, if you and your partner are interested in the screen.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

And whatever it is, because there's a range again to that to that script, there is no right way to do a thing.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

Right. Because some people like, you know, if you listen to podcasts or hear people's stories, like some people jump right in. So some people go from we talk about brake and gas, that's cool. So some people go from zero to a hundred and they're fine with that, and that works in their relationship, and that's great. But maybe that's not you. Maybe you're like zero to fifty, maybe you're zero to ten, maybe you're zero to five.

SPEAKER_01 50:08

Like, yeah, you're just idling. That's cool too.

SPEAKER_00 50:10

That's okay too. If you're just like taking your foot off the brake and the car is just moving at like two, three, four, five miles an hour, and that's comfortable for you. That's great.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

I've been there, I respect that.

SPEAKER_00 50:21

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:23

And and we have seen, I think for for us, we've only been doing this a year. Um, we've seen a range of especially just recently, like just there's just people that are just kind of observing and just want to be in the sexy environment. Sexy environment. Like, yeah, that's cool too.

SPEAKER_00 50:42

Right.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

Do that. That's that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 50:45

Like live porn. That's what like you can see these things, you can watch these things, and you know, you figure out what it is that you're looking for. There's also, you know, people that all they want to be there for is things like exhibitionism, voyeurism, like they want to watch, they want other people to watch, and that's okay too.

SPEAKER_01 51:07

Yeah. So to kind of circle back of like getting educated, however, you want to do that, get some information. This is something that is not just out in the open where you can just see it on a daily basis. You'll have to do some digging. Yep. It's like, you know.

SPEAKER_00 51:28

I will say though, there are a ton of podcasts out there. Oh, yeah. Depending on where you're at. And books. Podcast books, but uh at least for me, for us, it was a lot of podcasts. So I'm just gonna recommend a few really quick. Uh, we got a thing was one. Um, that's probably our biggest thing. Um there was one called the Swinger Diaries. Um, and that was page. Now we did not catch them when they were actually podcasting. We reached out to them, um, and they give you if you do reach out to them, look them up, but they give you access to like a Google Drive full of their episodes. That was amazing. That's great. We've done Swinger University at Inphoe.

SPEAKER_02 52:14

Fantastic casual swingers.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

Love them, they're awesome. Wanderlust Mallory, Wanderlust, right? I think those have been our biggest ones. Um, Naughty Jim. Naughty Jim has been a more recent one, yes.

SPEAKER_01 52:29

Um, and we'll talk a little bit more about others, but there are they are out there, and it depending on obviously even what your age group is, and what your interests lie, where they lie, because maybe there are more you're more interested in something that's like hot wifeying, or you're interested in I don't know, whatever that is age group preference, it's there. Yep, absolutely accidental swingers, accidental swingers, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

So it's all about I think understanding what's out there, what you're interested in. Because that's the biggest thing. Curiosity, be curious, right? And then figuring out do I want to do a thing or not? That's like I think that's the biggest thing is like we talked about it.

SPEAKER_01 53:13

Yeah. Uh and getting information and listening and reading, you're not committing to anything. It's a very safe place to be. You're just bringing in for information gathering.

SPEAKER_00 53:27

But if you're gonna do a thing also if you're going to do a thing, you've you've got to take at least some kind of a step forward. You gotta take a little bit of risk and put yourself in. It may feel like a huge risk. Absolutely. But look around, you know. I don't know where you're at. It it really depends where you're at in the country, too, like what is available to you if you're in bigger cities and there's probably some club around you that you could go to and just kind of observe.

SPEAKER_01 53:53

Yeah, be an observer and just own that. Like I am just here to observe. Right. I'm just sitting here taking notes. Maybe not don't take notes, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 54:02

Don't do that. But you're you are gonna go into these environments just here to observe.

SPEAKER_01 54:07

I'm just a watcher, I just want to see, is this something I'm interested in?

SPEAKER_00 54:12

And be okay with that though. Because I'll also say now uh is you will go into these things and you will feel like as a very new person going into these, you're like, everyone wants to have sex with me. And you know, they don't that's not it. You're not gonna be they may, like, I don't know, they may, but you're not going to be attacked.

SPEAKER_01 54:32

Like everybody's not going like going to a like a a kind of regular night or night. Yeah, you're it's it's a little different.

SPEAKER_00 54:41

It's t it is different, at least in our experience. That's what it's been. And we've been to several events now, several different locations, and the people we've met have been very genuine, respectful, all of that. There's no pressure. The only pressure I've felt ever is just the pressure that I put on myself and learning to just have a voice. Like in this world, that's one thing you'll learn, and one thing that we'll probably talk about in future episodes is having a voice. Like you've got to say yes, you've got to say no, and that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 55:12

Things that kind of pop up that you didn't know were things areas of growth.

SPEAKER_00 55:16

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:17

I think that's great.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:23

Okay. So just a quick wrap-up of wrapping it. Up, right? And you talked about stretching earlier, and I'm like, oh. I know.

SPEAKER_01 55:31

What are we gonna do after this?

SPEAKER_00 55:33

Oh yeah, okay. So um, we're gonna wrap up. So we've got, let's see, we're taking our own little personal trip just for ourselves um next month. Um, you know, and I think that's important too, just making sure that you're always maintaining your own relationship, and whatever, like your relationships other outside of whatever you're doing. Yeah, yeah. And then I think June we have our hotel takeover event we're going to. Really looking forward to that one.

SPEAKER_01 56:05

We'll tell you all about that.

SPEAKER_00 56:06

Absolutely. And then July, we are going to Naughty in New Orleans, first Nin event ever.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

Everyone's told us we've gotta go. So guess what?

SPEAKER_00 56:17

Everyone says it's amazing. Biggest swinger lifestyle convention type thing in I would say in the world. It's huge, but you know, we're very curious about that. I'm also not necessarily sure that I find hot, humid New Orleans July sexy. We're gonna figure that out for people love it.

SPEAKER_01 56:40

Never been to Nollins.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 56:42

Um, yeah, but that's I'll gonna we're gonna check that off.

SPEAKER_00 56:45

I will tell you, like the more the hotter the environment is, the more clothes come off. Yeah, so that should be fun. Uh beyond that, um just continuing to hang out with friends, experience kind of where we're at, enjoying this life, enjoying this life, whether you know we're clothes on, clothes off, pants on, pants off, like just having fun and enjoying the time that we have.

SPEAKER_01 57:07

Enjoy.

SPEAKER_00 57:07

Absolutely. Yeah. Thanks for listening. This wraps it up. I'm Neo.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

And I'm Trinity.

SPEAKER_00 57:13

Thanks for listening and looking forward to the next time.

SPEAKER_01 57:15

Peace out.